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READ ´ On Plato's Symposium ☆ ➽ [Reading] ➿ On Plato's Symposium By Leo Strauss ➲ – The first major piece of unpublished work by Leo Strauss to appear in than thirty years this volume offers the public the unprecedented experience of encountering this renowned scholar as his students The first major piece oNtering this renowned scholar as his students did Given as a course in autumn under the title Plato's Political Philosophy these provocative lectures until. Two practical tips for potentially provocative either mentally or emotionally writers as a starter1 Hide your references and chop off your uotes if necessaryThrough him Rousseau they teach men to love after the fashion of philosophers; that is they teach to men to Frenchmen a love without gallantry; a love without anything of that fine flower of youthfulness and gentility which places it if not among the virtues among the ornaments of life Instead of this passion naturally allied to grace and manners they infuse into their youth an unfashioned indelicate sour gloomy ferocious medley of pedantry and lewdness; of metaphysical speculations blended with the coarsest sensualityI have bolded the text Leo Strauss uoted in his lecture when he commented on some modern day medical treatment of eros p115 The peculiar thing is that Strauss didn't give a reference for this uote despite the fact that he could be extremely precise when it comes to citations Another peculiar thing is that Strauss didn't give the context of this comment except one hint that it's from Burke he didn't even pronounce the whole name of Edmund Burke From the lecture alone one could not tell who Burke was criticizing unless one is already familiar with Burke beforehandInterestingly enough at the end of this lecture p118 he made the target of this criticism clear Who are the specialists regarding eros today The psychoanalysts During lecture as Leo Strauss himself has confessed one could not ask the lecturer could you repeat what you have said So it's a safe way of giving all the threads to the audience whilst giving them the choice to piece them up or notPutting together all these bits and pieces and it gives rise to a rather harsh criticism on psychoanalysis It's true nevertheless but it is too much for one to swallow if it were presented in a naked head on manner This I take to be an example Leo Strauss demonstrated to psychoanalysts how to write sedately how to filter your audiences and reveal the suitable contents to suitable minds It's a well demonstrated one2 Navigate your stream of thoughts by posing right uestionsThis intricate acrobat of philosophizing with literature critiue becomes transparent in this book At first glance one would say that Strauss was faithful to the text His interpretation of the text seems somehow magical paying enough attention to the reality of ancient Greece while presenting extraordinary conclusions coming out of nowhere But the unspoken story is that Strauss smuggled many Nietzschean topics into his lecture by simply bringing up the right otherwise known as Nietzschean topic and posing the right uestionsThe point where this trick becomes most apparent is Strauss's interpretation on Aristophanes Aristophanes told a story of hermaphrodites in the text From the Jungian point of view the standing out feature is the longing for completeness the longing of returning to the primitive perfect state Strauss took a rather interesting or realistic turn when he was interpreting but the other half of man might be long dead because their skin was peeled off and conseuently all eros in this respect is miserable I'm not uite sure if this is the right mentality when it comes to interpreting myths One Hundred Years of Solitude for example was filled with this kind of please ignore the common sense for now plots But the goal of such a not so satisfying interpretation is bringing out the topic of comedy vs tragedy and the hubris character of eros This trick workedNaturally one critiue I could say about Straussian reading is that it eliminated the difference of ancient psyche and modern psyche the interpretation of Aristophanes is uite illustrative The ancients think pretty differently from us they could somehow come up with so many zodiac legends a bunch of which were so vividly described in Ovid's Metamorphosis while the modern people could only see dots of starlights Boy ain't them imaginativeI guess a prudent way of characterizing this book would be what Plato managed to conjure up in Leo Strauss's mind Leo Strauss is amazingly discreet and sophisticated when it comes to differentiating the details while at the same time keeping the big picture in mind His differentiations are however not purely for differentiation's sake They were or less guided by the absent counterpart of this lecture Nietzsche Without this intention of putting Nietzsche and Plato to dialogue his differentiations would degenerate to nothing but categorizing and nitpicking which anyone could get a mouthful in any ordinary philosophy class It's a subtle difference but well worth appreciating


Now never On Plato's MOBI #207 published but instead passed down from one generation of students to the next show Strauss at his subtle and insightful bes. หนังสือเล่มนี้ท้าทายสมองผมครับ ผมใช้เวลาหลายปีกว่าตะสามารถอ่านรวดเดียวขบกด้อาจเพราะ 1ครั้งแรกที่อ่านผมยังเด็กมากและไม่สามารถทำความเข้าใจเนื้อหาอย่างถ่องแท้ทั้งหมด 2 ภาษาและสำนวนที่ไม่ง่ายเลยโดยเฉพาะกับเด็กชาวไทยภาษาง่อยแบบผม แม้ผมจะอ่านทั้งสองภาษาไทยและอังกฤษ และพบว่าเฉพาะหนะงสือเล่มนี้ผมมีความสุขในการอ่านภาษาแม่มากกว่าหนังสือดีครับ การโต้เถียงที่มีเหตุผล ตะมักนำมาซึ่งปัญญาเสมอ ไม่มีการโต้เถียงก็ไม่มีคำถาม ไม่มีคำถามแล้วก็จะไร้หนทางออก แต่การโตเถียงที่ใช้เหตุผลและความรู้ นำมาซึ่งความเป็นไปได้ในการหาคำตอบที่หลากหลายมากขึ้น หาอ่านกันนะครับ

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On Plato's SymposiumThe first major piece of unpublished work by Leo Strauss to appear in than thirty years this volume offers the public the unprecedented experience of encou. This book was my introduction to Leo Strauss picked up on a whim at a used book shop in Seattle's University District I was immediately struck by the depth of knowledge Strauss brought to his analysis speaking of Athenian topics in strictly Athenian terms with critical attention to the details of Athenian history and what we know of Athenian religious political and social practices This was a most refreshing change from most contemporary analysis of the Symposium which seeks to contextualize the dialogue within late 20th century history and late 20th century religious political and social practicesHighly recommended to all who seek wisdom without softness